Podcast ¦ Punk CX: Think you know Gen Z Think again – Interview with Matt Powell of Great State

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Key Take Aways

  • Understanding Gen Z is crucial as their influence grows within the workforce and customer base, particularly due to their significant demographic proportion.
  • Traditional marketing methods, including fixed personas and rigid content strategies, are increasingly ineffective with Gen Z, who prefer fluid and agile engagement.
  • Organisations like the Royal Navy exemplify the importance of aligning recruitment communication with Gen Z’s preferences for authenticity and directness.
  • Firmly established assumptions about Gen Z being solely chaotic, unpredictable, or reactive need to be challenged; they are adaptable and operate with fluidity, not chaos.
  • Old tools and methods—such as fixed personas, static content pillars, and trend chasing—are broken in addressing Gen Z preferences, which are more nuanced and context-dependent.
  • The rise of brand visual and verbal storytelling indicates a shift towards more dynamic, authentic, and human-centred branding, driven by AI and evolving consumer expectations.
  • Incorporating real community signals, genuine storytelling, and transparent data usage builds trust and aligns with Gen Z’s desire for authenticity.
  • Personalisation remains important but must be responsibly managed; bad personalisation erodes trust, while well-crafted, transparent experiences foster loyalty.
  • Making experiences effortless is vital, but “good friction” that empowers choice can enhance engagement rather than hinder it.
  • Continuous discovery, rapid prototyping, and agility in technological and content development are key principles for engaging Gen Z effectively.
  • The approach to data privacy should emphasise transparency and open communication, treating these issues as part of the brand’s voice and values.
  • Building reciprocal loyalty involves aligning brand purpose, visual identity, and experience design with Gen Z’s core values, such as sustainability, authenticity, and uniqueness.
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Key Statistics

  • Gen Z comprises approximately 18-20% of the UK population.
  • About 90% of Gen Z respondents indicated that social responsibility, values, and sustainability influence their perception of brands.
  • Only approximately a quarter of Gen Z actively research the sustainability practices of brands they follow.
  • 85% of Gen Z engage with personalised content.
  • Roughly 60-65% of marketing professionals admit their personalisation tactics may be perceived as “creepy”.

Key Discussion Points

  • The evolving influence of Gen Z as a significant demographic in the workforce and consumer landscape.
  • The shortcomings of traditional marketing methodologies such as static personas, reach models, and optimisation-based approaches.
  • The importance of aligning brand purpose and storytelling with Gen Z’s values and preferences.
  • The ways in which organisations like the Royal Navy are adapting to meet the recruitment needs of Gen Z.
  • The contrast between need for authenticity and the false dichotomy of chaos versus adaptability in Gen Z.
  • The impact of recent societal shifts including Covid-19, Brexit, and unstable political landscapes on Gen Z’s worldview.
  • The fluid and adaptable mindset of Gen Z, which actively processes information and revises opinions—challenging fixed assumptions about their behaviour.
  • The need for rethinking user journeys and touchpoints given the non-linear, unpredictable ways Gen Z interacts with brands.
  • The role of transparency and responsible data use in building trust through personalisation.
  • The importance of brand voice—verbal and visual—as a key differentiator and trust builder.
  • How shifting focus from trendy content to strong, unique brand experiences can improve engagement.
  • The significance of balancing friction and ease in user experiences to empower choices without overwhelming or frustrating.
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Podcast Description

This podcast explores the profound shifts in digital customer experience driven by the rise of Generation Z. Hosted by industry experts, it examines how brands must evolve from traditional methods to embrace authenticity, agility, and transparency. Featuring insights from research and practical examples, the podcast offers strategic guidance for senior managers in financial services to better understand and engage the next generation of consumers and talent amidst rapid technological and societal change. It emphasises the importance of responsible innovation, brand storytelling, and adaptive engagement in cultivating trust and loyalty in a dynamic environment.


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